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I bought a HP EliteBook 8460p second hand and it is provided with a QWERTZ layout, but the special characters look more like a US layout. It is definitely not German layout.

I took a picture of it with also a set of stickers to make it "German".

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What layout is the native one printed on the keyboard? Which one should I select in Windows 10?

It looks like a UK keyboard with Z and Y swapped. I cannot find it in the Windows preferences! Is it there?

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The QWERTZ or QWERTZU keyboard is a widely used computer and typewriter keyboard layout that is mostly used in Central Europe. The name comes from the first six letters at the top left of the keyboard: Q, W, E, R, T, and Z.

The main difference between QWERTZ and QWERTY is that the positions of the "Z" and "Y" keys are switched, this change being made for two major reasons:

"Z" is a much more common letter than "Y" in German; the latter rarely appears outside words whose spellings reflect either their importation from a foreign language or the Hellenization of an older German form under the influence of Ludwig I of Bavaria. "T" and "Z" often appear next to each other in the German orthography, and placing the two keys next to each other minimizes the effort needed for typing the two characters in sequence (cf. the use of a single-block tz ligature in many early mechanical printing presses using fraktur typefaces).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ Also this link has a good how too on changing your keyboard layout.

How to get german QWERTY on Windows?

Towards the bottom there's screenshots on how to set it up.

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A couple of ideas come to mind that might help.

  1. On the laptop's info sticker see if there is some sort of SKU or variant number, looking at the service manual there should be a MODEL number that would be the variant one. This may help you find which market the laptop was made for.

  2. Take the laptop apart and get the part number for the keyboard. HP parts are well labelled and the service manual I've linked gives you every part number you need. You could even source a proper German keyboard and the seperate silver frame to drop in place saving you having to use stickers. Available keyboards start on page 59 of the service manual for 8460p's.

The German keyboard is part number 642760-041, The keyboard on yours looks to be a standard UK one (part 642760-031) but with the Z and Y physically swapped. Every European language keyboard for that model I looked at has the additional accent keys, it makes no sense.

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