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Having an about 10 year old i7 machine, I want to re-install Windows 10 Pro over the existing Win10 Education installation using a USB stick. But when booting the Win10 iso, I only get a black screen with blinking cursor. Nothing happens, even not after waiting for a longer time. The used ISO file was generated using Microsofts Media Creation Tool.

Hardware details

  • AMIBIOS v02.63 (R01-A2) from 12/09/2008
  • Mainboard from Acer aspire m7720
  • i7 920 @ 2.66 GHz

Non-working things I already tried

  • Easy2Boot
  • Rufus with different options (FAT32, NTFS, UEFI, BIOS)
  • Re-Download the ISO file
  • Using different USB ports (front/back)
  • Changing the current boot order temporarily (F12) and permanently using BIOS (ENTF)
  • Searching in the BIOS for settings that could affect the boot behavior
  • Checking Fix for older BIOS in the extended RUFUS options shows the window logo after booting (instead of black screen) but now it hangs there
  • Put the SSD in another pc for installing Win10 and put it back afterwards
  • Installing Windows 8.1 with latest updates and upgrade to Win10

Working things

  • Use the same USB stick on a newer HP notebook: The Win10 installer starts without any issues
  • Also on a non OEM 1366 board (same socket) I can boot and install Win10 easily
  • Booting Ubuntu installer from the stick: Works, but sadly I need Win10 for some games
  • Flashing Windows 8.1 x64 ISO image from MS with MBR for BIOS

According to the documentation of m7720 we don't have any UEFI here. So MBR for a simple BIOS should be enough and I can't understand why it's not working.

Lion
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Another trick... wait it out. I was using the October build on an ancient T3400 dell quad core. It was flashing. I was messing with my phone for 5 minutes and it proceeded to the install. Let it sit awhile. Might work. Worked for me.

CarComp
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TLDR: Windows 10 contains a bug since months that result in non booting systems and installers when VT-d is enabled in BIOS.

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This bug exist since 1803 and altough many users seems to have trouble with it, Microsoft doesn't care about fixing this issue for several months.

What can we do?

Not much. The best thing would be not using Windows, since Windows 10 contains forced updates. So even when you use tricks to install an older release, Microsoft will update it very soon without asking you. When you're in the situation like me that you're forced to use the Windows installation (yet), it seems that you must live without VT-d.

History: How I get to this problem (total about 2 days work)

Found out that it works with older Win10 versions, so it seems that Microsoft break something:

Working

  • 1709

Not working

  • 1803
  • 1809

HeiDoc was quite usefull here, since downloading special versions is a big mess on Microsofts side: The current official Media Creation tool didn't let me choose any parameters about the version. Even when using an older version of the tool itself, it doesn't start and force me to download the latest version.

I tried installing 1709 on USB stick which works perfectly. Since Win10 has forced updates, I'm surprised if the system is working after installing the latest auto-updates, which bring the system up to 1803.

Lion
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I had a similar problem a few hours ago (black screen w/cursor after trying to boot from USB on an old computer, despite that same USB working on newer ones), and user Igb suggested that I try using a program that "helps you boot from a number of sources", called Plop Boot Manager: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html.

You'd have to burn the downloaded ISO onto a CD/DVD (or another flash drive) and boot from the disc, then select the USB drive and try to boot from it. It worked perfectly well for me, so might be worth to go for it and see what happens.

wr1tr
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I had the same issue. I turned off VT-d and waited a bit and it started

Duane
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Thought i had the same issue after deploying 21H2 win 10 Pro.

Used Rufus and tried manual ISO build to USB with powershell. When trying to boot from the USB, the windows blue background displayed foe a splot aecond then went to the flashing cursor and seemed to hang. I left the machine on over night in that state and next morning it was showing the setup screen - just needed patience. It was odd the windows loadong background showed up and then displayed the cursoe for ages - assumed it had hung.

SiUK
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I am having a similar problem. I'm trying to install Windows 10 on an old HP All-in-one (TPC-Q003) which belongs to a friend of mine. I've created a bootable drive with Rufus and apparently the motherboard is compatible with UEFI, but when I try to start the installation, it shows the Microsoft logo, then the screen turns blue and I get the blinking dash. I saw a lot of people online talking about waiting it out, but it blinks for maybe a minute or two and then the computer shuts itself down. Any ideas on how to work this around? Thanks in advance.

Edit: I think it's worth mentioning I've also tried creating the boot drive through Windows Media Creation Tool and the same thing happens.

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I've had this problem also with AMD boards, so no Intel VT-d involved. My solution has been to use Hasleo WintoUSB, to preinstall Windows on the desired boot drive.

Hook up your boot drive to a working computer with a USB dock, run WintoUSB, point it to the external drive and let it work.

When it is done, take the drive and put it back in the computer you were trying to install W10 on. Boot the system, and after a bit of setup you should be taken to the screens where you have to create a User Account, etc.

There's only one caveat with this method. You can end up with an error at boot (sometimes) because Windows still thinks it is running on an external drive. To fix this, open Registry and go to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control

Delete the item

PortableOperatingSystem

or change the value to zero (0). If you don't see that key, create it (DWORD) and set value to zero.

Peregrino69
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Safest method for solving:

It happens on old systems. Here how to solve (without need for extra pen-drive):

  1. Download and install Manjaro (It is open-source so no worry)
  2. I suggest you to stop at this step as Linux is faster than Windows but if you insist, in installed manjaro open software store (pamac)
  3. In its preferences enable AUR
  4. Search Ventoy in AUR section and install it
  5. Run Ventoy and install it on USB flash
  6. Copy windows ISO to the USB flash
  7. Reboot to USB flash
Mureinik
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Wait it out.

It is basically poor UI design, I think Microsoft want you to do the upgrade from a running OS. Nevertheless, this is not really forgiveable, there should be some indication that boot has occurred or is progressing.

So, just laziness on the part of the publisher. Perhaps there is a technical barrier to having a splash screen? I would think that if they were halfway competent they would find a way. Even Windows 95 was better than this.

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