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My computer had problems and I had to reinstall Windows using the vendor's recovery program. Now, I am considering if I should wait till windows 10 rolls out, or go ahead and install 1.5GB of updates.

Do I need an updated Windows 8 / 8.1 to update to Windows X?

Lord Loh.
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Yes Microsoft has a page that is very clear about the criteria. You have to run the upgrade from an existing Windows installation and if you are already running Windows 8 you need to install the updates to get the Upgrade offer (1, 2).


If you experience issues on a machine or license eligible for the upgrade to Windows 10 and you don't want to look up and interpret how the error codes relate to your situation you can take the shortcut and reinstall from Windows 8 refresh media after you have made a backup of your installation. (I prefer dism/imagex for backups.)

I just found this out while trying to get my upgrade, having a few error codes, tried cleaning and re-downloading a few times and found a suggestion to just install from the Windows 10 refresh media, which are already available, but this doesn't work for the upgrade of an existing license. However since I had a backup and nothing to loose I gave Windows 8 refresh media a chance and was surprised that at the end right before it would bring me to the Windows 8 desktop it notified me about the Windows 10 upgrade as part of the Windows 8 installer and started downloading and installing Windows 10 after I confirmed that this is what I want and not to skip this instead. The installation just finished and Windows 10 activated on the second try.

I would have expected a requirement to download and install all updates for Windows 8, but it did not. You can start upgrading to Windows 10 right off a clean installation of Windows 8.

For clarification, I used a T530 that came with Windows 7 Pro (MBR), updated it to Windows 8 Pro and 8.1, transfered and restored it a few times with dism and changed the bootloader to UEFI in the past years (so there where enough possibilities for something to break the Windows 10 upgrade process). I received a new product key during my Windows 8 upgrade back then, which I used during the installation from the refresh media, however I haven't received a new product key nor do I have any indication which licensing information was used to activate Windows 10 (and will probably be voided by Microsoft for downgrades) yet.

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Yes and no. If you want to use Windows Update to do the upgrade, then you need to be on Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 S14 with all updates installed.

However, if you just want to manually do it, you can use the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool to download and perform the upgrade, or create an ISO and perform the upgrade from that (making sure to do an upgrade install and not a clean install). Using the MCT does not require that you have the latest updates installed and can be done from Windows 7 RTM or Windows 8 RTM (as well as 7 SP1 and 8.1 and 8.1 S14)

The Media Creation Tool is located here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

  • NOTE: You MUST perform an upgrade install (keeping your files) in order to get the free upgrade. You cannot do a clean install the first time. You can do clean installs afterwards. No key is required, but you must have a valid genuine Windows 7/8.x installation to upgrade from.
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Enough of the confusion here.. Unless you installed Win 7 or Win 8 BEFORE July 29th 2015 . you can NOT & WILL NOT get the FREE version of Win 10... IF you did have Win 7 or Win 8 installed BEFORE July 29th , then MS automatically will detect those OSs & send the Windows 10 Icon to your task tray AFTER the Win 7 or Win 8 updates are downloaded... You will NOT get the free version UNTIL you have ALL the updates from Win 7 OR win 8 & Win 8.1 downloaded & installed... When that's done you WILL get a notification that you are good to go with Win 10 IF you so choose...

The short answer is: IF you installed Win 7 or Win 8 BEFORE July 29th , you MUST have ALL the updates installed BEFORE you can get Win 10..( That means Win 7 , Win 8 OR win 8.1)

Good Luck !!!...

Have a GREAT day & weekend... :-)

Ron M