Wikibooks:Requests for permissions/タチコマ robot

+Bot

Bot operates on a number of wikis (see: m:User:White Cat#Bots). My bots on other wikis preform double redirect fixing, commons delinking and interwiki tasks. I would like to help out with double redirect fixing and commons delinking. I do not know if wikibooks has an "interwiki" task but if it does I would like to help with that as well. -- Cat chi? 11:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[]

Oppose until an actual example of work here that needs to be done is shown. Furthermore, I don't understand what this huge influx of bot votes is for. We are not a wiki that needs large amount of bot work on a frequent basis. -withinfocus 17:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[]
Support Useful. I see no reasons to opposed based solely on the fact this wiki doesn't need bot work. Bots do the boring maintenance and give human editors more time to work on books. ~ Wikihermit 22:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[]
Comment We have a commons delinker bot already, see User:CommonsTicker and Wikibooks:CommonsTicker for more information about that. Fixing double-redirects and interwiki links is good, and If you can get started right away that would be great! Let's see what kind of work your bot does and how quickly your bot operates before we grant a bot flag. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 23:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[]
Not done No consensus to give the flag here, after a long nomination. I would encourage this bot to operate anyway, if tasks for it can be found. Once we see the bot in action, and see what it's capable of doing, we might revisit this issue. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 23:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[]

+Bot

  • Bot operator: User:White Cat (Commons:User:White Cat) - En-N, Tr-4, Ja-1
  • List of botflags on other projects: Bot has a flag on wikimedia (meta,commons) wikipedia (ar, az, de, en, es, et, fr, is, ja, ku, nn, no, ru, sr, tr, uz, simple...) (See: m:User:White Cat#Bots)
  • Purpose: Interwiki linking, double redirect fixing, commons delinking (for cases where commonsdelinker fails)

-- Cat chi? 16:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[]

Of all the many other accounts you have can you point us to a wiki where you have done similar work recently so that we can see what you do, thanks --Herby talk thyme 17:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[]
My bot account on wikipedia:en:User:Computer can be a good referance. -- Cat chi? 17:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[]
FYI: - Please also note that there is a previous, denied request for bot status here.  – Mike.lifeguard | talk 17:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[]
Yes, I wasn't paying attention to it. Real life issues such as an inter-continental relocation distracted me. -- Cat chi? 18:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[]
Question - interwiki.py is very safe. redirect.py is safe, but probably not needed, as I run my bot every time the Special: page is updated (and we have so few we don't really need the bot). Nevertheless, both those functions are very safe, and I'm happy to have you perform them. For Commons delinking, we have User:CommonsDelinker already; I wonder what cases you're providing "backup" and what script is being used for that function? If you're using delinker.py, then it would have all the same faults, so I assume you're using something else for that.  – Mike.lifeguard | talk 05:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[]
Commonsdelinker operates out of toolserv. If toolserv is down for any reason so is commonsdelinker. I would use delinker.py off of my own computer in such cases. -- Cat chi? 11:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[]
Ahh, fine. I hadn't thought of that. Could you point to another wiki where you've done so? Assuming you know how it works, I'm happy to have this bot serve as a backup.  – Mike.lifeguard | talk 17:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[]
  • Support -- this bot has been operating on a number of other projects, and I have heard nothing but good things about it. --SB_Johnny | PA! 03:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[]
  • Support — A bot performing safe and boring tasks that is used on many other wikis? No brainer. Zginder (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[]
  • Oppose - There is no need for this account to have a bot flag. Furthermore, I question the need for two of the three specified tasks. Interwiki linking is welcome, and I'd like to see you do interwiki linking here using this account. If the volume is such that a flag is needed, then I'd support a flag for that task only. Fixing double redirects and acting as a backup for User:CommonsDelinker are not required here.  – Mike.lifeguard | talk 18:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[]
    I run into the auto spam blocker without the bot flag. It seems like you are quick to change your standpoint. -- Cat chi? 20:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[]
    I looked at Special:Contributions/CommonsDelinker - it makes perhaps 2/3 edits per week. At that rate, we have no need of a backup. Nor should such a backup (if we ever come to need one) have the flag - it's edits shouldn't be hidden from RC. Furthermore, I have to echo darklama's comments that Wikibooks uses interwiki links very much differently from other projects (specifically, from WP). Assuming you can do it right though, go for it.  – Mike.lifeguard | talk 03:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[]
  • Oppose - I don't see a current need for the things this bot can do. Wikibooks doesn't have a backlog of double redirects for example, and I'm not aware of any cases where CommonDelinker has failed to delink images on Wikibooks. Different languages of Wikibooks might have different approaches to using interwiki links if they are used at all, which may not make sense for a bot to deal with. I believe for instance on English Wikibooks interwiki-ing is generally limited to the main page of a book, which means interwiki links are probably not currently a problem that English Wikibooks has. I have no idea if other languages have a similar defacto approaches or policies concerning interwiki links or not. Since this bot is mostly used in a wiki environment where every page is a separate article it doesn't make much since for use with Wikibooks where pages belong to a book rather then being independent of each other. --darklama 21:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[]
    Some here actively patrol the CommonsTicker and watch for images that would be delinked, in order to find a suitable replacement if possible; that probably reduces the potential for the CommonsDelinker to fail. Webaware talk 23:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[]
    If the toolserv goes down, so does commonsdelinker. -- Cat chi? 13:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[]

Not done Bots are flagged mostly for the benefit of RC patrollers, and the RC patrollers weighing in here seem to prefer that these edits not be flagged. I encourage White Cat to go ahead run the bot unflagged, and we can flag it later if it ends up causing problems for the RC feeds. --SB_Johnny | PA! 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[]

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